Travis Fisher, Director of Energy and Environmental Policy Studies at the Cato Institute, joined Rep. Dan Crenshaw on his podcast to analyze the new Department of Energy climate report and challenge prevailing climate narratives.

Fisher examines the latest climate models, CO₂ impact data, and hurricane trends while critiquing the EPA’s 2009 “Endangerment Finding,” a regulation he argues has significantly hindered American innovation and economic growth.

The conversation offers a different perspective on energy policy, calling for what Fisher calls “energy realism”: affordable, reliable energy alongside innovation-driven environmental progress.

You can listen to the full podcast episode here.

If you’d like to speak with Fisher, please reach out to Cato PR at pr@​cato.​org.