# Multimedia 

Multimedia 

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Media Highlights Radio • October 24, 2016 

# Jim Harper discusses REAL ID on WJIM’s *The Steve Gruber Show*

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##### [Jim Harper](/people/jim-harper)

Former Senior Fellow 

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