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Media Highlights Radio • September 6, 2016 

# A. Trevor Thrall discusses his recent blog post on America’s safety on WJIM’s *The Steve Gruber Show*

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##### [A. Trevor Thrall](/people/trevor-thrall)

Former Senior Fellow, Defense and Foreign Policy Department, Cato Institute

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