# Multimedia 

Multimedia 

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Media Highlights Radio • April 6, 2016 

# Emma Ashford discusses America’s Invisible Wars on WJIM’s *The Steve Gruber Show*

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##### [Emma Ashford](/people/emma-ashford)

Senior Fellow, Stimson Center

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