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Media Highlights Radio • April 28, 2015 

# Ilya Shapiro discusses *Obergefell v. Hodges* on KFMB’s *The Mike Slater Show*

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##### [Ilya Shapiro](/people/ilya-shapiro)

Former Vice President and Director, Robert A. Levy Center for Constitutional Studies, Cato Institute