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Cato Weekly Podcast • December 24, 2014 

# ‘Ungoverned Spaces’ Aren’t Ungoverned 

So-called ‘ungoverned spaces’ is the latest term of art for places where central governments don’t reach. And for some technocrats and interventionists, the mere fact that spaces aren’t governed is a problem. Jennifer Keister comments.

[The Illusion of Chaos: Why Ungoverned Spaces Aren’t Ungoverned, and Why That Matters](https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/illusion-chaos-why-ungoverned-spaces-arent-ungoverned-why-matters)

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##### [Jennifer Keister](/people/jennifer-keister)

Former Visiting Research Fellow 

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##### [Caleb O. Brown](/people/caleb-o-brown)

Former Director of Multimedia, Host and Executive Producer, *Cato Daily Podcast*, Cato Institute