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Media Highlights Radio • July 7, 2009 

# Patrick J. Michaels discusses cap and trade on AFR’s *Nothing but the Truth with Crane Durham*

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##### [Patrick J. Michaels](/people/patrick-michaels)

Former Director, Center for the Study of Science