# Multimedia 

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Media Highlights Radio • June 25, 2009 

# Patrick J. Michaels discusses cap and trade on WBAL’s *The Ron Smith Show*

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##### [Patrick J. Michaels](/people/patrick-michaels)

Former Director, Center for the Study of Science