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Media Highlights Radio • June 26, 2026 

# Ryan Bourne and Ilya Somin discuss whether libertarians and abundance liberals can be political allies on the *Liberal Podcast with Jeremiah Johnson*

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##### [Ryan Bourne](/people/ryan-bourne)

R. Evan Scharf Chair for the Public Understanding of Economics, Cato Institute

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##### [Ilya Somin](/people/ilya-somin)

Professor of Law, George Mason University, and B. Kenneth Simon Chair in Constitutional Studies, Cato Institute

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