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Media Highlights Radio • December 4, 2025 

# Ryan Bourne’s article, “Labour Isn’t ‘Fixing a Black Hole’, It’s Growing the Welfare State,” is promoted on the Times Radio’s *The Hugo Rifkind Show*

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##### [Ryan Bourne](/people/ryan-bourne)

R. Evan Scharf Chair for the Public Understanding of Economics, Cato Institute

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