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Media Highlights TV • November 11, 2025 

# Kerry McDonald discusses her book, *Joyful Learning: How to Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling*, on the *Teacher, Let Your Light Shine!* Podcast 

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##### [Kerry McDonald](/people/kerry-mcdonald)

Adjunct Scholar, Cato Institute 

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