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Cato Audio • June 1, 2024 

# Bryan Caplan and M. Nolan Gray on the science and ethics of housing regulation 

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##### Featuring 

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##### [Bryan Caplan](/people/bryan-caplan)

Professor of Economics, George Mason University, and *New York Times* bestselling author of *Open Borders: The Science and Ethics of Immigration*

![M. Nolan Gray - cropped](/sites/cato.org/files/styles/author_picture/public/2024-04/M-Nolan-Gray-cropped.jpg?itok=JRHSzE3G) 

##### M. Nolan Gray 

Author

[![Square face shot of Caleb O. Brown.](/sites/cato.org/files/styles/author_picture/public/2021-01/cbrown_sq.jpg?itok=zSWLm8kR)](/people/caleb-o-brown) 

##### [Caleb O. Brown](/people/caleb-o-brown)

Former Director of Multimedia, Host and Executive Producer, *Cato Daily Podcast*, Cato Institute