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Cato Weekly Podcast • January 30, 2024 

# Fresh Chaos at the Border Doesn’t Change What’s Needed to Rationalize Immigration 

It’s utterly irrational to expect that making illegal immigration the only immigration would give US policymakers better options at the border. David Bier explains.

[What Biden Can Do After Another Failed Border Deal](https://www.cato.org/commentary/what-biden-can-do-after-another-failed-border-deal)

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##### [David J. Bier](/people/david-bier)

Director, Immigration Studies, and The Selz Foundation Chair in Immigration Policy, Cato Institute

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##### [Caleb O. Brown](/people/caleb-o-brown)

Former Director of Multimedia, Host and Executive Producer, *Cato Daily Podcast*, Cato Institute