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Media Highlights TV • July 17, 2023 

# Adam Michel discusses the nation’s recent record levels of deficits and debt on the Pioneer Institute’s *Hubwonk* with Joe Selvaggi podcast 

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##### [Adam N. Michel](/people/adam-n-michel)

Director of Tax Policy Studies, Cato Institute; Former Deputy Staff Director at the US Congress Joint Economic Committee

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