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Cato Audio • May 5, 2023 

# Mark Calabria, Dana Wade and Norbert Michel on challenges faced at the Federal Housing Finance Agency 

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##### Featuring 

[![Calabria Cropped](/sites/cato.org/files/styles/author_picture/public/2021-10/calabria-cropped.jpg?itok=5EpCNOFT)](/people/mark-calabria) 

##### [Mark A. Calabria](/people/mark-calabria)

Former Director, Federal Housing Finance Agency; Former Chief Economist, Vice President Mike Pence; Former Senior Advisor, Cato Institute

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![Dana Wade Circle](/sites/cato.org/files/styles/author_picture/public/2025-08/dana-wade-circle.jpeg?itok=eKZB9nef) 

##### Dana Wade 

The Peter G. Peterson Foundation

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##### [Norbert J. Michel](/people/norbert-michel)

Vice President and Director, Center for Monetary and Financial Alternatives, Cato Institute

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##### [Caleb O. Brown](/people/caleb-o-brown)

Former Director of Multimedia, Host and Executive Producer, *Cato Daily Podcast*, Cato Institute