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Power Problems • June 24, 2025 

# A Regime Change War in Iran? 

Rosemary Kelanic, Director of the Middle East Program at Defense Priorities, discusses the Israel-Iran war, U.S. involvement, and the risks of escalation.

**Show Notes**

Rosemary Kelanic, “[A U.S. War With Iran Would Be a Catastrophe](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/opinion/trump-israel-iran-war-attacks-nuclear.html?unlocked_article_code=1.O08.rsWU.CjjqW_my9PaN&smid=url-share) ‚” *New York Times*, June 14, 2025.

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##### Rosemary Kelanic 

Director, Middle East Program, Defense Priorities

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##### John Glaser 

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