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Power Problems • May 3, 2022 

# Intelligence, Politics, & National Security Policy 

Retired CIA officer Paul R. Pillar discusses the tensions between the intelligence community and policymakers, concerns over domestic abuses of the CIA and NSA, the continuing legacy of post‑9/​11 policy mistakes, the Russian war in Ukraine, the Biden administration’s diplomacy with Iran, and how hyper-partisanship undermines national security policy.

**Show Notes:**

- [Paul R. Pillar bio](https://gufaculty360.georgetown.edu/s/contact/00336000014RgYUAA0/paul-pillar)
- Paul R. Pillar, “[The Role of the Villain: Iran and U.S. Foreign Policy](https://www.jstor.org/stable/23563304?seq=1),” *Political Science Quarterly* 128, no. 2 (Summer 2013): pp. 211–231.
- Paul R. Pillar, [*Intelligence and U.S. Foreign Policy: Iraq, 9/11. And Misguided Reform*](https://www.amazon.com/Intelligence-U-S-Foreign-Policy-Misguided/dp/0231157932) (New York City: Columbia University Press, 2014).
- Paul R. Pillar, “[Guantanamo Bay Remains a Moral Stain on America](https://nationalinterest.org/blog/paul-pillar/guantanamo-bay-remains-moral-stain-america-201878),” *The National Interest*, April 18, 2022.

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