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Power Problems • November 6, 2018 

# The Future of Conservative Foreign Policy 

Bryan McGrath, Deputy Director of the Center for American Seapower at the Hudson Institute, joins Trevor and Emma to discuss the evolution of conservative foreign policy during the Trump era.

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- Robert Kagan, [*The Jungle Grows Back: America and Our Imperiled World*](https://www.amazon.com/Jungle-Grows-Back-America-Imperiled/dp/0525521658/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1541431999&sr=1-1) (Knopf 2018)

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##### [Emma Ashford](/people/emma-ashford)

Senior Fellow, Stimson Center

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