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Power Problems • October 16, 2017 

# Desperate Times, Desperate Measures 

**Show Notes**

- Guest Bio: [Alexander Downes](http://alexanderdownes.weebly.com/about-me.html)
- *[Targeting Civilians in War](https://www.amazon.com/Targeting-Civilians-Cornell-Studies-Security/dp/0801478375?tag=catoinstitute-20)*
- “[Rohingya Account Atrocities](//www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/world/asia/rohingya-myanmar-atrocities.html),” *New York Times*

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##### Featuring 

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##### Alexander B. Downes 

Author, Associate Professor and Codirector of the Institute for Security and Conflict Studies, George Washington University

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