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Power Problems • October 20, 2020 

# On Declinism and American Influence 

Is American influence declining? Emma Ashford talks to Ali Wyne and Gabby Tarini of the Rand Corporation about their new report on America in the world.

**Show Notes:**

1. Ali Wyne Bio: [https://​www​.duco​ex​perts​.com/​u​s​e​r​s​/​a​l​i​-wyne](https://www.ducoexperts.com/users/ali-wyne)
2. Gabrielle Tarini Bio: [https://​www​.rand​.org/​a​b​o​u​t​/​p​e​o​p​l​e​/​t​/​t​a​r​i​n​i​\_​g​a​b​r​i​e​l​l​e​.html](https://www.rand.org/about/people/t/tarini_gabrielle.html)
3. James Dobbins, Gabrielle Tarini, and Ali Wyne, “[The Lost Generation in American Foreign Policy](https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA232-1.html),” RAND Corporation.

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##### [Emma Ashford](/people/emma-ashford)

Senior Fellow, Stimson Center

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##### Ali Wyne 

Senior Analyst, Eurasia Group

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##### Gabrielle Tarini