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Media Highlights Radio • January 23, 2025 

# Joshua Shifrinson discusses NATO on the *This is Democracy* podcast 

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##### [Joshua Shifrinson](/people/joshua-shifrinson)

Non-resident Senior Fellow, Cato Institute; Associate Professor, University of Maryland