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Media Highlights Radio • December 3, 2020 

# Ilya Shapiro discusses the role of nation-states in the 21st century on MCC and Danube Institute’s *Patriotic Talks*

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##### [Ilya Shapiro](/people/ilya-shapiro)

Former Vice President and Director, Robert A. Levy Center for Constitutional Studies, Cato Institute