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Media Highlights Radio • December 13, 2016 

# Emma Ashford discusses Trump naming Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State on KQED’s *Forum* with Michael Kransy 

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##### [Emma Ashford](/people/emma-ashford)

Senior Fellow, Stimson Center

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