# Multimedia 

Multimedia 

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Media Highlights Radio • December 22, 2015 

# Emma Ashford discusses the fight against ISIS and whether the U.S. is underestimating the group on WWL’s *First News* with Tommy Tucker 

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##### [Emma Ashford](/people/emma-ashford)

Senior Fellow, Stimson Center

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