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Events • October 1, 2013 

# A SAFE Way Out of State and Local Pension Woes? — Panel 2: Experiences from the States: Successes, Failures, and What Comes Next 

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##### [Jagadeesh Gokhale](/people/jagadeesh-gokhale)

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