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Events • November 6, 2025 

# Education Reimagined: A Conversation with Kerry McDonald on *Joyful Learning*

Are you wondering how to spark more joy and curiosity in your child’s learning—or how to make education work better for your students? In her new book, *Joyful Learning*, Kerry McDonald shares inspiring stories of families and educators who are reimagining education through microschools, pods, and other creative approaches. In this one-on-one conversation, McDonald will answer your questions and share practical ideas to bring more freedom and happiness to learning. Prepare to explore fresh possibilities for both parents and teachers.

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##### [Colleen Hroncich](/people/colleen-hroncich)

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##### [Kerry McDonald](/people/kerry-mcdonald)

Adjunct Scholar 

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