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Cato Weekly Podcast • August 19, 2025 

# Trade, Power, and Tension: The U.S.-China Story 

Justin Logan and Clark Packard break down the twists and turns of the U.S.-China relationship—from trade liberalization and consumer benefits to lost manufacturing and rising geopolitical tensions. They unpack how economic integration shaped today’s challenges and what it means for America’s future.

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[![FS Vol. 1 No. 2 -Liberty at Home - Hero](/sites/cato.org/files/styles/content_teaser/public/2024-06/FS-Liberty-at-home-Hero%20copy_1.jpg?itok=bSM3Ayxb)](https://www.cato.org/free-society/summer-2024/liberty-home-restraint-abroad-realist-approach-foreign-policy) 

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### [Liberty at Home, Restraint Abroad: A Realist Approach to Foreign Policy](/free-society/summer-2024/liberty-home-restraint-abroad-realist-approach-foreign-policy) 

By [Justin Logan](https://www.cato.org/people/justin-logan) 

The United States should embrace its unique geopolitical blessings and let realism and restraint guide American foreign policy.

[![Military vehicles at a port for export.](/sites/cato.org/files/styles/content_teaser/public/2023-03/202303_defense.jpg?itok=C2Pug_iL)](https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/uncle-sucker) 

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### [Uncle Sucker](/policy-analysis/uncle-sucker) 

By [Justin Logan](https://www.cato.org/people/justin-logan) 

Since roughly 1960, the United States has averaged about 36 percent of allied GDP but more than 61 percent of allied defense spending.

[![U.S. and China Trade Ships](/sites/cato.org/files/styles/content_teaser/public/2023-05/US-Trade-Ships.jpg?itok=lMEEam1q)](https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/course-correction) 

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### [Course Correction](/policy-analysis/course-correction) 

By [Clark Packard](https://www.cato.org/people/clark-packard) and [Scott Lincicome](https://www.cato.org/people/scott-lincicome) 

The U.S.-China relationship is increasingly complex and is the top geopolitical issue facing the world today.

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### [Presidential Tariff Powers and the Need for Reform](/briefing-paper/presidential-tariff-powers-need-reform) 

By [Clark Packard](https://www.cato.org/people/clark-packard) and [Scott Lincicome](https://www.cato.org/people/scott-lincicome) 

Congress has broadly delegated its constitutional tariff powers to the president, and there is a real risk that the legislative and judicial branches would be unwilling or unable to check a future president’s abuse of US trade law as currently written.

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##### [Justin Logan](/people/justin-logan)

Director of Defense and Foreign Policy Studies, Cato Institute

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##### [Clark Packard](/people/clark-packard)

Research Fellow, Herbert A. Stiefel Center for Trade Policy Studies, Cato Institute

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