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Cato Weekly Podcast • December 9, 2025 

# Strategy Without Strategy: Inside the New NSS 

The Cato Institute’s Katherine Thompson and Josh Shifrinson join Justin Logan to dissect the most contentious passages of the National Security Strategy, including its warnings about European “civilizational erasure,” its revived Monroe Doctrine instincts, and the absence of military escalation language on China. The discussion weighs whether this NSS truly reflects restraint and realism or simply refines old habits under a new rhetorical wrapping.

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##### [Justin Logan](/people/justin-logan)

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##### [Katherine Thompson](/people/katherine-thompson)

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##### [Joshua Shifrinson](/people/joshua-shifrinson)

Non-resident Senior Fellow, Cato Institute; Associate Professor, University of Maryland