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Cato Weekly Podcast • October 7, 2025 

# Protecting Expression in Crisis 

Robby Soave, senior editor at Reason and co-host of The Hill’s Rising, join’s Cato’s Thomas A. Berry and David Inserra to discuss the state of free speech following the Charlie Kirk assassination and Jimmy Kimmel suspension. They examine how recent administrations have engaged in government jawboning to suppress speech and conclude that consistent First Amendment principles must prevail regardless of which party controls government power.

##### Show Notes 

[![kimmel ](/sites/cato.org/files/styles/content_teaser/public/2025-09/kimmel%20.jpg?itok=jcEaPxtF)](https://www.cato.org/blog/kimmel-cancellation-dangerous-sign-free-speech) 

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### [Kimmel Cancellation a Dangerous Sign for Free Speech](/blog/kimmel-cancellation-dangerous-sign-free-speech) 

By [David Inserra](https://www.cato.org/people/david-inserra) and [John Samples](https://www.cato.org/people/john-samples) 

Regardless of whether you like Kimmel or not, in America, we settle our political disagreements and correct errors with more speech, not the government strong-arming the media into only airing certain viewpoints on late-night television.

[![charlie kirk before assassination](/sites/cato.org/files/styles/content_teaser/public/2025-09/charlie%20kirk%20.jpg?itok=9VDamPc9)](https://www.cato.org/blog/americans-must-remain-committed-free-expression-after-assassination-charlie-kirk) 

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### [Americans Must Remain Committed to Free Expression After the Assassination of Charlie Kirk](/blog/americans-must-remain-committed-free-expression-after-assassination-charlie-kirk) 

By [David Inserra](https://www.cato.org/people/david-inserra) 

We must make the choice to embrace civic discourse to find our shared humanity. Our solutions should rely on more speech, not less, to better understand each other and face the real challenges in our society.

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##### [David Inserra](/people/david-inserra)

Fellow for Free Expression and Technology, Cato Institute

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[![Thomas Berry](/sites/cato.org/files/styles/author_picture/public/2026-02/2025-10-16-Thomas%20Berry-sq_0.jpg?itok=SW7WagUw)](/people/thomas-berry) 

##### [Thomas A. Berry](/people/thomas-berry)

Director, Robert A. Levy Center for Constitutional Studies, Cato Institute

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![Robby Soave](/sites/cato.org/files/styles/author_picture/public/2025-06/Robby-Soave-scaled.jpg?itok=xysKKU6G) 

##### Robby Soave 

Editor at *Reason,* Host of *Rising* on Hill TV