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Cato Weekly Podcast • June 18, 2026 

# The Degrowth Temptation 

A new Global Justice Report associated with Thomas Piketty urges near-zero growth for rich countries, sweeping redistribution, global wealth taxes, shorter working hours, and rapid decarbonization. Cato’s Ryan Bourne talks to Marian Tupy about what degrowth gets wrong—and why its promise of justice masks a dangerous agenda of government control.

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##### [Ryan Bourne](/people/ryan-bourne)

R. Evan Scharf Chair for the Public Understanding of Economics, Cato Institute

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##### [Marian L. Tupy](/people/marian-l-tupy)

Senior Fellow, Cato Institute

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