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Cato Weekly Podcast • December 2, 2021 

# The Tech/​Innovation Policy Conversation We Need 

The heavy lifts to getting government out of the way of innovation in many cases simply aren’t happening. Will Rinehart of the Center for Growth and Opportunity believes the people who need to do that hard work are distracted.

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##### William Rinehart 

American Enterprise Institute

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##### [Caleb O. Brown](/people/caleb-o-brown)

Former Director of Multimedia, Host and Executive Producer, *Cato Daily Podcast*, Cato Institute