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Cato Weekly Podcast • June 6, 2019 

# Next Steps in Prison Reform 

Many federal inmates are about to be released under the First Step Act, but the road ahead for prison reform should focus more directly on putting fewer people in prison to begin with. Kevin Ring, president of FAMM Foundation, comments.

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##### Kevin Ring 

President of FAMM

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##### [Caleb O. Brown](/people/caleb-o-brown)

Former Director of Multimedia, Host and Executive Producer, *Cato Daily Podcast*, Cato Institute