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Cato Weekly Podcast • July 19, 2019 

# Lofgren and Amash on Polarization, Civil Discourse, and Getting Things Done in Congress 

As civil discourse falters in the United States, House Democrat Zoe Lofgren and House independent Justin Amash discuss the process of lawmaking with Cato’s Jeff Vanderslice. This was recorded on Capitol Hill at the Cato Institute’s [\#SphereSummit](https://www.twitter.com/hashtag/spheresummit) held this week.

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##### Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D‑CA) 

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##### Justin Amash 

Former Congressman

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##### Jeff Vanderslice 

Former Director of Government Affairs, Cato Institute

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##### [Caleb O. Brown](/people/caleb-o-brown)

Former Director of Multimedia, Host and Executive Producer, *Cato Daily Podcast*, Cato Institute