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Cato Weekly Podcast • April 13, 2020 

# Conservative Nationalism’s Next Steps? 

Adrian Vermeule argues that traditional conservative views of the Constitution ought to be replaced. What he believes ought to replace it is pretty troubling if you care about liberty. Stephanie Slade of *Reason Magazine* comments.

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