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Cato Audio • January 4, 2024 

# Scott Lincicome and Deirdre McCloskey on Cato’s Defending Globalization project 

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##### [Scott Lincicome](/people/scott-lincicome)

Vice President, General Economics and Stiefel Trade Policy Center, Cato Institute

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##### [Deirdre N. McCloskey](/people/deirdre-n-mccloskey)

Distinguished Scholar Isaiah Berlin Chair in Liberal Thought, Cato Institute

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