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Cato Audio • September 1, 2017 

# Patrick Eddington interviews Sen. Ron Wyden (D‑OR) and Sen. Rand Paul (R‑KY) on surveillance reform 

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##### [Patrick G. Eddington](/people/patrick-g-eddington)

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##### Senator Rand Paul 

(R‑KY)

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##### Senator Ron Wyden (D‑OR)