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Cato Audio • May 1, 2018 

# John Mueller and A. Trevor Thrall discuss public opinion and counterterrorism policy 

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##### [John Mueller](/people/john-mueller)

Professor of Political Science Emeritus, Ohio State University; Senior Fellow, Cato Institute

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##### [A. Trevor Thrall](/people/trevor-thrall)

Former Senior Fellow, Defense and Foreign Policy Department, Cato Institute

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