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Cato Audio • May 1, 2024 

# Erec Smith and Senator Eric Schmitt on DEI’s divisive programming 

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##### [Erec Smith](/people/erec-smith)

Research Fellow, Cato Institute, and Cofounder, Free Black Thought

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##### Senator Eric Schmitt 

US Senator (R‑MO)

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##### [Caleb O. Brown](/people/caleb-o-brown)

Former Director of Multimedia, Host and Executive Producer, *Cato Daily Podcast*, Cato Institute