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Cato Audio • February 1, 2021 

# Alex Nowrasteh and Simon Lester on trade and immigration under the Biden administration 

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##### [Alex Nowrasteh](/people/alex-nowrasteh)

Senior Vice President for Policy, Cato Institute

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[![Simon Lester](/sites/cato.org/files/styles/author_picture/public/2021-01/Simon%20Lester.jpg?itok=noQ9immh)](/people/simon-lester) 

##### [Simon Lester](/people/simon-lester)

Cofounder, World​TradeLaw​.net, and Former Legal Affairs Officer, Appellate Body Secretariat, World Trade Organization

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##### [Caleb O. Brown](/people/caleb-o-brown)

Former Director of Multimedia, Host and Executive Producer, *Cato Daily Podcast*, Cato Institute